from <a href="/en/Diary%202025-08-09">Diary 2025-08-09</a>
People who stay in unproductive discussions.
Some people stay in unproductive discussions.
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<li>What is not productive from my point of view is not productive when measured on my value axis.</li>
<li>Different people have different values and therefore different ideas of what is productive.</li>
<li>Example: The<ul>
<li>A place where people who don&#39;t understand the premise join one after another.<ul>
<li>Not talking about it, BAD.</li>
<li>You can act as if you are &quot;someone who knows better&quot;, GOOD</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>A place where speech is detached from the speaker.<ul>
<li>GOOD because attacks on individuals do not occur.</li>
<li>Attention to yourself, which should be paid to you, is lost and BAD</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What you want to get from the place is different.</li>
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