>“...we do not structure it this way because then it will go back to the old, like the state must control the future of the project. Instead, we say no, this is a prize award that we give you for successfully attracting these many people to support you and for successfully demonstrating you have a positive social return on investment. Your success in demonstrating this is like writing a good novel or having a good film. So whatever matching funding we give you is a prize, a recognition, and so prize money does not carry any strings – you don’t have to change your course or your governance because you receive a prize from the government. Because it’s structured this way, it’s then much more smooth, because then the governance from those projects stays with the governance community in those projects. ...If we can discover more ways that can be structured like prizes, we can support them without necessarily having to control the direction of where the civil society is going.”